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Post by 3BNole on Jun 30, 2012 12:42:37 GMT -5
At the last home series with Stanford, I heard from a pretty reliable source that Devon was set on returning for his senior season. Now, obviously with the draft working out the way it has, I'm not sure if that's changed or not. At the time I heard he had already paid his lease for the upcoming season and was really excited about being a leader on the team, so fingers crossed...
Word out of Gonzo has been much harder to get.
If we could get both back, next year still looks pretty good. Without them, I'm starting to get a little worried.
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Post by kellylexy on Jul 1, 2012 16:45:04 GMT -5
Our starting pitchers looks great for next season. The infield and CF is going to take major hits. We also have to find a new closer. Having Mike Bell on board gives me the reassurance I need for the pitching staff to be top notch. Replacing our two biggest bats is the biggest problem for next season, IMO.
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Post by 3BNole on Jul 2, 2012 13:34:23 GMT -5
Devon announced that he's signing with the Tigers. Man that hurts...
It seems like so many years it feels like we lose a lot and then we exceed expectations, but really, next year is looking terrible as far as offense goes right now.
Unfortunately, I feel Boyd's decision to leave really cascaded a lot of this. Had he stayed, I feel Devon would have stayed also.
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Post by nolefan1 on Jul 2, 2012 17:27:12 GMT -5
We might finally have a stable of pitching but wth is our offense going to come from next year. No Boyd, Sherm, Travis, Rammer and Gonzo is still a ?  |
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Post by 3BNole on Jul 2, 2012 23:50:09 GMT -5
It is really scary, it really is... I was thinking about it earlier today, and I realized that if Gonzo does not come back next year, our leading returning HR hitting is Seth Miller with 3!
That's a scary proposition. I do believe Gonzo will be back, and I do believe that Delph is going to continue to develop into a special player over time, but there are just so many holes offensively. I think the key for next year is going to be the freshman. This team is going to really sink or swim depending on whether this incoming class can contribute big-time immediately.
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Post by 76noles on Jul 3, 2012 22:52:16 GMT -5
I was very disappointed to read that Travis is signing. Not totally surprised but disappointed. The exciting thing is that we will have a bunch of new guys to watch develop. The scary part is that "Meat" didn't do anything with his new batters this year except for Delph and even he was up and down. I think 2013 will be a key year for younger martin if he has any designs on being our next coach (not something I personally endorse). One more plus is that "11" seems to do his best coaching when his team is an underdog.
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Post by kellylexy on Jul 8, 2012 1:58:01 GMT -5
I have thought about what you wrote. If not Jr, then any idea who you would like to see? You have been an avid FSU baseball guy for several decades now. Is it premature to think Mike Bell would be a better choice as the heir apparent to MM? I really like what he did with the very questionable staff this season. He took freshmen and made them look like seasoned juniors/seniors. The players seem to respect him a great deal. Is he 'manager' material in your opinion? If not Bell or Jr, then who else?
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Post by 3BNole on Jul 8, 2012 13:13:33 GMT -5
Well first all, Martin Sr. just signed a contract extension so that should guarantee he's around for at least a few more years (health willing). As for who succeeds him, it'll be interesting to see. I have strong reservations with Junior as well, which stem in part from two things: 1. While there are some aspects of his current duties he has really done a great job with (OBP, BB, working counts, etc.) there are others which I feel he has severely lacked in (developing power hitting, bunting, base running, etc). While all of that I don't feel is really enough to deny him the job, at the same time I don't feel that it's enough to just hand it to him either. 2. He's completely untested w/o his father. How he would do w/o his dad at the reigns remains a big mystery. While I certainly don't mind exploring how he'd do on his own, in fact I encourage it, I don't feel that that's an experiment that should be undertaken at FSU (the only program at any level in the nation to never have had a losing season). I believe it's just too risky.
What I wish is that Junior could find a head coaching job at some mid-major somewhere and spend 2 or 3 years there proving that he could run a program on his own. Then, if he did well, I would have absolutely no disagreement with hiring him as our next HC. At least we'd know exactly what we were getting.
That's just my problem with him right now, he's a big question mark.
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Post by kellylexy on Jul 8, 2012 19:28:44 GMT -5
Well first all, Martin Sr. just signed a contract extension so that should guarantee he's around for at least a few more years (health willing). As for who succeeds him, it'll be interesting to see. I have strong reservations with Junior as well, which stem in part from two things: 1. While there are some aspects of his current duties he has really done a great job with (OBP, BB, working counts, etc.) there are others which I feel he has severely lacked in (developing power hitting, bunting, base running, etc). While all of that I don't feel is really enough to deny him the job, at the same time I don't feel that it's enough to just hand it to him either. 2. He's completely untested w/o his father. How he would do w/o his dad at the reigns remains a big mystery. While I certainly don't mind exploring how he'd do on his own, in fact I encourage it, I don't feel that that's an experiment that should be undertaken at FSU (the only program at any level in the nation to never have had a losing season). I believe it's just too risky. What I wish is that Junior could find a head coaching job at some mid-major somewhere and spend 2 or 3 years there proving that he could run a program on his own. Then, if he did well, I would have absolutely no disagreement with hiring him as our next HC. At least we'd know exactly what we were getting. That's just my problem with him right now, he's a big question mark. That would be ideal, but you and I know that won't fly,,, |
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Post by 76noles on Jul 11, 2012 22:40:14 GMT -5
I agree with 3B 100%. Junior needs head coaching experience first if he is ever to be considered for the FSU job. We will need someone with head coaching experience as this is too good a job to go with someone without a proven track record. FSU has several alumni in the college coaching ranks but all or at least the vast majority are also assistants...Link Jarratt, Chris Roberts, and a few others are out there but as assistants. So I just don't know who I'd favor. For now, "11" is with us for awhile and there will be time for this to sort itself out. A key may actually be how the Jimbo Fisher era turns out. He was an assistant and if he wins big, that may help Meat's case. If the football team keeps hanging up 8-4 type seasons, FSU may be very wary of hiring someone without head coach experience.
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Post by kellylexy on Jul 12, 2012 13:38:35 GMT -5
Interesting thought about Fisher's success/failure. With 11 being around for a few more years you make a good point. If JF cannot do it then does FSU look for someone with experience versus a newbie manager?? I also think another few years will allow Meat and Bell to 'compete' a little. If the pitching continues to blossom he may give Meat a run for his money when it comes to decision time. I really like what he has brought to the table in such a short time frame.
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